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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 22, 2013 10:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

Thank you very much for posting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdeTQPgh9SE

The takeaway from a musician? What we should ALL know:

Re BillY K: "He’s a very underrated drummer." The Europe 72 discs have taught me he should be mentioned in the same breath as Charlie Watts. Doing so much by doing "so little".

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Poster: BVD Date: Sep 22, 2013 11:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

I have always believed that The Rockin' K never got his due. His style reminds me more of Mitch Mitchell than Charlie. All three are terrific drummers. Turn on a dime Grateful Dead came to an end when Mr. Hart returned. Unfortunate.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 23, 2013 12:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

I agree with that assessment re "turn on a dime". Mickey brought many different things to the table, but it was a more nimble beast with just Billy.

More Ranaldo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqW1C5q7RIY

WITH NELS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_NdZJMQIO0

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Sep 23, 2013 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

Charlie Watts? Look, I'm no authority on the Stones, but would you really put him in the same category as Billy?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 23, 2013 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

My only point was not a direct comparison but that both rarely get cited when discussions come up about the greatest rock drummers. It's always G. Baker, Bonham, Moon, etc. while both Billy K and Charlie are fantastic at staying out of the way and serving the song and both swing like great jazz drummers (of which Charlie clearly is outside of the stones and which seems to be his true passion). That's my point - there is a hell of a lot to be said for style and finesse over bombast.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 23, 2013 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

On first blush, i think it is a great comparison for all the reasons that you mention, however i found it interesting when the approach of the Stones was discussed in Crossfire Hurricane (great documentary) it was quite a different role for a drummer. Basically Charlie and Bill W. were not setting the pace but actually following Keith, which i believe was pointed out to be a less than stable approach to music and definitely not conducive to the turn the dead on a dime capabilities that Billy K possessed. So similar approaches to drumming yet in completely different roles.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 23, 2013 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

I want to see that doc; been on a major stones' push lately. '81 show at the Fox in Atlanta with Stray Cats opening still in my top ten shows.

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Poster: Reade Date: Sep 24, 2013 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Ranaldo on Sunshine Daydream

"Keith is the groove that (I) follow. It's something I've always done. It comes from the days of playing in clubs and his amp was by my left foot. It was the only thing I could ever hear you see."

-Charlie Watts, from the documentary 'Tip of the Tongue,' about band prep for their 40 Licks Tour.